Marie says (11:14 AM):
i want oldies

Jo Ann says (11:15 AM):
I do, too.  I wish I had not given so many away now.  But, there's always more.
  

Marie says (11:15 AM):
people wont sell them
Marie says (11:15 AM):
I have offered up to 50mil for one chin and was told no
Marie says (11:15 AM):
and we cant pm people to ask anymore

Jo Ann says (11:17 AM):
We were never suppose to pm somone about them ... unless they  were being
discussed in the shout box or on the forum.  

Marie says (11:17 AM):
**jaac said different
Marie says (11:17 AM):
she doesnt care

Jo Ann says (11:19 AM):
That's what I had been told ... had Iknown better, I would have probably been able to
get some a while back.   
As I understood it ... your account would be frozen
if you did ... so I didn't.

Marie says (11:19 AM):
yeah

Jo Ann says (11:19 AM):
I guess what is fair for some is not always fair for others.  Some did it and
nothing was done about it
.

Marie says (11:20 AM):
i got reprimanded even after having permission

Jo Ann says (11:21 AM):
I just did not do it at all ...
when it is posted I figure it is the same for
everyone.

Marie says (11:21 AM):
yep

Jo Ann says (11:22 AM):
Like you said ... you got reprimanded ... knowing my luck, I would have gotten
frozen ... there were others that did.  
 I just don't like double standards.

Marie says (11:23 AM):
yeah




**jaac ~ refers to Jacqueline Rothermel, current owner of the site and "owner" at that
time.
Below is what is posted on every member's profile.
It is simple and direct.  
This has been posted on EVERY profile,
since the site was created last year:

Send Message to

Subject

SPAM Notice:
You are not allowed to message this member asking to buy, trade or use their chinchillas or
anything else they own
. And you are especially not to ask for points or money. This is
considered SPAM and will cause your account to get frozen

Message







SEND
~~~Two Sets of Rules ~~~
Could the rule be stated in a better way?

"You are not allowed ..."

Could the consequences be stated any better?

"... will cause your account to get frozen".
 
 
 
 
But, what happens if you break this rule

and you have been putting a tidy sum of money into the site?

Below is an Instant Message between myself and a member:
As you read this, please keep in mind ...
this person has since been made a Moderator
.
THIS IS NOT HER NAME ON SITE
A few more candid comments made by this, now moderator ...
She should, in my opinion, be setting an example for the kids ...   
(
She is an adult, a parent and a grandparent.)

Marie says (10:44 AM):
i want one certain oldie and noone will get rid of it

Jo Ann says (10:44 AM):
Which one is that?

Marie says (10:45 AM):
dec 20 has one
Marie says (10:45 AM):
she wont get off it for noting
Marie says (10:45 AM):
#848
Marie says (10:45 AM):
i have three of the green pants guys now )
Marie says (10:59 AM):
I was so disgusted
Marie says (10:59 AM):
coco was suppoed to be helping me buy a oldie



Marie says (10:59 AM):
she bought it  
Marie says (11:02 AM):
and someone lying isnt either

Jo Ann says (11:04 AM):
True.  Who lied to you?

Marie says (11:04 AM):
i feel lied to
Marie says (11:05 AM):
coco said she was trying to help me get dec 20 to sell me a oldie
Marie says (11:05 AM):
I left to go see james came back and she had bought it
Marie says (11:05 AM):
I felt deceived
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Another time:

Marie says (2:09 PM):
i was told so much last night

Jo Ann says (2:10 PM):
What else were you told?

Marie says (2:10 PM):
that i am trying to buy my way into vchins

Jo Ann says (2:11 PM):
Who told you that?

Marie says (2:11 PM):
two different people
Marie says (2:11 PM):
that i am like kprien i try to buy my way in

***Marie says (2:19 PM):
i have 150 to 154 ageless jo  
 

Jo Ann says (2:20 PM):
I had no idea you have that many ... I don't go snooping in other people's profiles  ... it only
causes problems.
  

Marie says (3:48 PM)
this has happened two times to me jaq knows about the other




{Because she had stated such a large number of ageless chins, I thought
she was just kidding ... so I checked ... she was not.}

Between her account and her daughters account there was 168 ageless
chins.  Ageless chins went for 3 for $10 at one time, then 4 for $10 later.

Using the least expensive price ~~~ 168 divided by 4 = 42 X $10 = $420

These 168 ageless chins, do NOT account for the ageless chins she gave
away as gifts.

She also has several "custom chins" @ $3.50 each.  

No wonder some people might think she is '
buying her way in'!

Could this also be the reason she her account was not frozen when she
sent private messages asking for oldies and other rare chins that were
now to old to breed???  
With, according to her, the owners full knowledge and blessing.




A few other examples:

Jo Ann says (4:03 PM):
I'm in the process of reducing it to about 200 chins or less ... I had passed the 1,000 mark
.

Marie says (4:03 PM):
i know you did
Marie says (4:03 PM):
lol 1003
Marie says (4:03 PM):
i counted LOL

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Marie says:
those admins are p*****g me off
Marie says:
im ging to talk to jaq
Marie says:
i think they are overstepping their boundries way too much

Jo Ann says:
By doing what?

Marie says:
they jsut do things that they dont need to do
Marie says:
i have her on msn right now

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here is a conversation in reference to 3 oldies Marie purchased from an 8-year-old child that
had no idea what they were worth ... but she did :


Marie says (12:35 PM):
i asked him how much for certain ones he gave me a price
Marie says (12:35 PM):
I apid
Marie says (12:36 PM):
i paid it
...
Marie says (12:37 PM):
i didnt take advantage of him I paid him what he asked
...
Jo Ann says (12:38 PM):
I know ... he just has no idea ... he's 8 years old and in the 2nd grade, but very smart
for his age ... but knows nothing about the value of things.

Marie says (12:39 PM):
well still joann e named the price
Marie says (12:39 PM):
I paid what he asked me to paty
Marie says (12:39 PM):
and then I sent him another 100000
______________________________________________________________________________________
THIS IS PROOF SHE SENT HIM A PM, knowing it is against the rules!  
Read from the BOTTOM message UP
---------------------------
From: Jacob
Date: 03/08/08
Message
I will sell them for $50000

Original Message
---------------------------
From: sassy
Date: 03/08/08
Message
I would be interested in ID numbers 583 1038 and 2716
______________________________________________________________________________________
Marie says (12:40 PM):
there is the message

Jo Ann says (12:41 PM):
Marie, I believe you ... I have never questioned the amount he ask for or what you paid him for
it.  

Marie says (12:41 PM):
well he got more then he asked
...
Marie says (12:44 PM):
i didnt rip him off
Marie says (12:44 PM):
the kid isnt going to understand why i sent him 100000 more dollars
...
Marie says (12:48 PM):
its the fact joann
Marie says (12:48 PM):
i didnt take advantage of him
...............................................................................................................................................

Part of the same conversation where this child had put out of date regular chinchillas in his
store to sell them

...............................................................................................................................................
Marie says (12:51 PM):
thing is those chins are *worthless except to the OSB
{*referring to out of date reg.chins}
Marie says (12:51 PM):
he has them set igher then he sold to me

Jo Ann says (12:52 PM):
Only to someone who wants to make them ageless or just collect them.  Yes, he is asking more
... you paid that for old ones, so he figures new ones are worth more.

Marie says (12:52 PM):
yeah

Jo Ann says (12:53 PM):
Those are all out of date also.

Marie says (12:53 PM):
yep

Jo Ann says (12:53 PM):
Like I said ... he has no idea of the value.

Marie says (12:54 PM):
he really shouldnt be on the site at 2nd grade without jamie right there

Jo Ann says (12:55 PM):
Jamie is usually right with him when he is on line ... she is out of town and he is at his
grandmother's house.

Marie says (12:55 PM):
oh

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

*This $50,000 for 3 oldies, was about 1/10 of what they were EACH worth.

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

When I reported this to the owner, Ms. Rothermel, she said ...
                                       "LOL what can I do?"

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
If this had been a child I had reported ...

or a member that was not putting any money into the site ...

Do YOU think this is what her answer would have been to me?

~~~ Much More to Come ~~~
 
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Luv 'N Chins
Frozen Accounts

Cheating will cause your account to be frozen.
When you have the chance to adopt a chinchilla or buy a limited item you are only allowed to get one.
Hitting the back button to get more is against the rules and will cause your account to be frozen.

Some of our games use the honor system to submit points. If you are caught giving yourself more
points than you earned your account will be frozen

SPAM: Sending advertisements to our members or asking members to sell you their chinchillas is
considered SPAM and will cause you to have your account frozen.

Family Friendly: If you add any content to this site (either by messages, forum, pet names, or
descriptions) that is considered inappropriate your account will be frozen.

                                                 Added AFTER I was Frozen
               {leading other members to believe I cheated or did something bad.}

Anyone disrespecting the admins in any way (either in chat, via PM, forums, etc) will be frozen
immediately.

Accounts can also be frozen at the discretion of any admin or the owner at any given time for any
given reason.

                       ~~~ And this is the United States of America? ~~~
 
~ Peanut ~





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